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unfair western war against libya, iraq, afghanistan ...

Posted 07-10-2011 at 05:59 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?
Updated 07-11-2011 at 12:57 PM by jaro

Tags gaddafi, libya, neocolonialsm, peace, war

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a war affects all financial markets (fx, commodities, equities, bonds, ...), isnt it? well, lets help 2 stop 'our' neocolonial war against one of the leaders + biggest supporters africas, LIBYA, in a financial way ~ lets destroy fiat currencies ASAP :-)

source? here :-)

folks, its sooo sad what we ('developed' ~ 'industrialized' ~ 'democratic' ~ NATO nations) do to the whole world ;-(. all the bombs which kills innocent people in iraq, afghanistan, libya :-( ... and why? do we need that? not at all! we have everything already, dont we? so why all that silly destruction? we should better help the people in poor countries, shouldnt we?

btw, which country will be our next victim? any guess out there? iran, syria, north korea, algeria, venezuela, ... anyone else who doesnt follow our dictate? dont 'worry', it is not too difficult to 'invent' a reason for invasion for us, it hasnt be true anyway (iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction) ...

of course, there are also many folks in the west who dont support wars + that neocolonial politics and demonstrate in the streets against all that inhuman military actions and 'spending' of our tax money ...


damn, there are 2 things i cant understand, my dear!

1. the whole western industrialized world is bankrupt. how the hell can we afford to sent our soldiers around the globe and kill folks in distant countries most of us never been to? it is abt paper money, isnt it? if our money would be gold/silver and we had to earn + save it first, we wouldnt pay our sons (daughter as well?) to go away and become wounded or even killed out there? so lets reject the unfair paper money system, lets close our small dirty central banks, lets withdraw our money from our checking/savings accounts, lets buy gold + silver and step out from the financial casino out there ... easy, isnt it?
2. why the hell dont the 'weak' ~ 'developing' ~ 'terrorist' ~ whatever else we call them ~ nations UNITE and stop our easy going victories by destroying one 'enemy' after another ???

there are 2 soooo great articles ive read recently. it is not an easy stuff, of course ... enjoy it anyway and lets join all peaceful minded people all over the world together and stop the insane western wars and planet destruction! wanna join this club?

• the daily bell (a libertarian 'free thinking' newsletter)
• jean-paul pougala (a cameroonian writer)

friends, what about UNITED STATES of WORLD? united by people, not by power elites and/or financial mafia, of course

NO WAR !!! no money 4 wars ... no support 4 wars ... what abt love, peace, freedom, prosperity, protection of our environment, good life instead?

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1. I'm a big fan of your posts and agree with you that most wars are unjustified. As an American I think it is time for us to let the Arab world figure out there problems. If it was up to me I would pull all our troops out of the three wars we are currently entangled (not to mention all of Europe and Asia). I would still have a strong military (at least half the size, with a bigger emphasis on special forces), but make it very known that we will not be getting involved in conflicts that do not directly threaten the US. When those threats do occur I would hit hard and fast until the other side was destroyed. I'm with Teddy Roosevelt "Walk softly and carry a big stick". War is nasty and should be avoided at all costs, but when you choose to go you unleash all of your might and end it as soon as possible. We like to pretend war can be surgical and humane, all this does is create decades of endless conflict. I really believe we could have negotiated the handing over of Osama right after 9/11. If that didn't work we did have a right to go in and get him (which we could have if Bush hadn't screwed it up in Tora Bora). I'm all for special forces going in and taking care of enemies of my country, but do believe if we stopped getting involved in all this foreign intervention (and supplying other countries oppressive regimes with killing equipment) we wouldn't have very many enemies. To your United states of the world idea... I think big organizations lead to corruption and war. Maybe a smaller version as a trial. How about the US and Germany unite? I'll take you guys in any day. Great cars. One last thought.. I am amazed at the left in my country that seems to have zero problem with Obama bombing people, but goes bezerk when it is a Republican. The hypocrisy is over the top. Go Ron Paul!

   Posted 07-10-2011 at 07:18 PM by sphereless [Show Appreciation] What's This?

2. One of the reasons it seems the US is always in a skirmish somewhere is that the US is, in a way, the international police. For instance, the US military guards the shipping lanes. If you think about it- the US gov foots the bill for shipping security and that cost is not passes on so it is not factored into the cost of imported and exported goods and services. Except for the occasional pirate ship attack, pretty much things ship problem free. As the US loses the ability to afford to keep doing this, you will see more things break down including more pirated ships, and/or the cost of policing the waters passed onto others. Eventually it will be added into the cost of importing/exporting goods to and from other places. Cheers Tek

   Posted 07-10-2011 at 09:48 PM by Tekmnd [Show Appreciation] What's This?

3. I agree with the opinion that the US makes world trade less expensive by picking up the security tab. I've read arguments in the past this is one reason many countries (Japan, China, etc... Exporters) keep buying US treasuries and the simple math of running a trade imbalance. My conspiratorial side thinks many security threats could be handled quickly if there was a will to do so, but it benefits the military industrial complex to have an endless problem that requires a huge presence all the time.

   Posted 07-10-2011 at 10:07 PM by sphereless [Show Appreciation] What's This?

4. thx sphereless + tek for your great comments. well, pirates are dangerous guys, i know ... but why do these desperate fellows attack huuuuge transoceanic ships with their small boats? why do they risk to be killed in dangereous actions? they didnt used to do that before, did they? i think, wealthy + satisfied folks wouldnt choose to be pirates, would they? im not completely sure, but because our western scheme is sooo obvious over the years and almost the same all over the world i simply suppose we have destroyed their local economy by war first (the u.s. troops have been highly involved in somalia in 1992-1995, 2007). then overfished their coastal territories second. after that prolly imposed an economic embargo third so they even couldnt start up from scratch again etc etc .... so they prolly really didnt had much other choice well, what can we expect if we destroy local economy by war (iraq), plunder resources (whole africa), destroy the environment (oil drilling in niger delta), burden credits which cant be paid back (world banks+ IMFs 'help' 4 africa) => of course, few of these 'terrorist+pirate' nations fight back like folks in somalia, iraq, nigeria, palestine, afghanistan, ... what else can they do? well, if we have destroyed their homes, economy, nature ..... they still can move elsewhere, dont they? yes, they can and they do ... thats why there are soooo many poor folks out of the 3rd world countries moving towards europe, usa, canada, australia, ... why not better pay fair prices for products imported, allow free trade instead of all these european/american domestic market protecting rules/tarifs/taxes and allow the folks all over the world to stay at home and cover their basic needs? well, we do prefer to bribe few corrupt local politicians and steal 90+ per cent of profits today, dont we? free world 4 free people peace! jaro

   Posted 07-11-2011 at 02:59 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

5. Im sure this has been brought up before but is it a coincident that the only counties without a central banking system is Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya? Oh silly me its gotta be coincidental! Doesnt it?: Its just gotta be! Oh and what family invented the fractional banking system? And is a stockholder of the Federal Reserve and the Central Banking System,THE ROTHSCHILDS FAMILY! 1849: Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife dies. Before her death she would nonchalantly state, "If my sons did not want wars, there would be none." If we want to do away with most wars all we would have to do is give the power to print its own money back to the Countries treasurey and burn the Federal Reserve and every Central Bank down to its foundation with everyone of its stock holders locked in side! Oorah! Ooh-rah is a spirited cry common to United States Marines since the mid-20th century. It is comparable to the Hooah cry used in the Army or Hooyah by the Navy SEALs. It is most commonly used to respond to a verbal greeting or as an expression of enthusiasm.

   Posted 07-11-2011 at 05:07 PM by slow to learn [Show Appreciation] What's This?

6. Quote: we have destroyed their local economy by war first (the u.s. troops have been highly involved in somalia in 1992-1995, 2007). then overfished their coastal territories second. after that prolly imposed an economic embargo third so they even couldnt start up from scratch again etc etc .... so they prolly really didnt had much other choice In the past when the US did these things, there were not pirate attacks after. Quote: they didnt used to do that before, did they? I think the fact that there are successful pirate attacks now when there were not before means that the US is losing either its political desire to police the world, its economic ability to be able to afford to do so, or both. Cheers Tek

   Posted 07-11-2011 at 06:35 PM by Tekmnd [Show Appreciation] What's This?

7. 	the most commodities (silver, wheat, corn) up like crazy today .... not so oil, only a smal 1% increase .... hmmmmm, strange during all these wars, gold defeating paper currencies, QEx and other related issues, isnt it? btw, who knows how long want/can the politics manipulate the oil market with selling its 'strategic' reserves?
   	Posted 07-13-2011 at 03:35 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

8. 	Quote: who knows how long want/can the politics manipulate the oil market with selling its 'strategic' reserves? The US strategic reserve total is the amount of oil the US uses in 3 weeks. The amount released was the amount the US uses in 6 days. Cheers Tek
   	Posted 07-13-2011 at 06:27 PM by Tekmnd [Show Appreciation] What's This?

9. 	thx tek ... so there are at most 2 more weeks of price suppression possible .... i think europe doesnt have too big oil reserves, we are short of space
   	Posted 07-14-2011 at 12:59 AM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

10. quo vadis, libya? folks, ive written few words abt the unfair western war against libya some time ago ... well, the former revolution leader, dictator, however we call him, muammar al-gaddafi and all(most?) of his sons were killed recently, so whats next 4 libya? and who will get the libyan oil? oil libya petrol station in marrakech / morocco as for now, approx 90% of the oil profits gets libya, 10% the western oil companies ... its gonna change very soon, isnt it? what abt 95% for exxon, conoco, bp, shell, total & co and the remaining part for libya? business as usual in africa, wouldnt u say? whats my guess 4 libya? well, the USA + its small dirty NATO allies (North Atlantic TERROR Organisation, which is threatened by noone, but kills ten thousands [millions?] of people all over the world) will install a puppet government like in afghanistan, iraq, etc and then move to some other 'target' bringing death & suffering to some other people (syria? iran?) just 2 keep the profits for western war industry running as always ... and yes, there will prolly be an ugly civil war in libya which will destroy everything the NATO bombs didnt destroyed yet and in the end will establish some highly religious islamic country, whose folks will hate us for few very good reasons and just wait for revenge .... and what abt the western taxpayer? he or she will have to pay billions and billions of dollars & €uros for decades in order to support the new puppet government and of course 2 support the libyan 'democracy' ... hmmmm, was it worth it and was there really nothing better we could do with our money, my dear? hell, how long will we accept that our corrupt politicians not only accomplished such a mess at home but also continue 2 kill innocent people all over the world? folks, lets #OccupyWallStreet, #OccupyMunich, #OccupyWorld & #OccupyTogether or lets start an another movement (if the #Occupy leaders turn into a wrong direction) which would give the power (back) to the public and would give our poor planet some hope :-)

    Posted 10-21-2011 at 06:36 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

11. 	putin on north atlantic terror organisation (NATO) who gave these so called 'civilized' nations the right 2 destroy industry + infrastructure which this small nation (libya, 6m folks) built over generations?
    	Posted 10-24-2011 at 01:59 AM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

12. Quote: Originally Posted by jaro g. putin on north atlantic terror organisation (NATO) who gave these so called 'civilized' nations the right 2 destroy industry/infrastuction which this small nation (libya, 6m folks) built over generations? Interesting video. I think this all plays into what slowtolearn was saying..."we need more central banks!" It really doesn't make sense to destroy a country's infrastructure. Who's going to pay to rebuild it? It could be that the worldwide economy is so bad that we need a WWIII to pull us out of this recession.

    Posted 10-24-2011 at 02:01 PM by gm228099 [Show Appreciation] What's This?

13. WWIII? a war only destroys whats already here, wars dont create global wealth ... as a planet, we could use the money wasted to destroy libya (and 2 control it over the next years/decades) much more effective i think ... of course, there are very few (exxon, bp, shell, halliburton, schlumberger, boeing + whole military industry, etc) who profit a lot, but not the libyan + american + european people ... and not our poor 'mother earth' ... of course, the reconstruction of devastated industry + infrastructure will pay libya itself, who else? maybe theyll get some high-yield-credits from IMF, WB, JPM, FED, etc .... who knows? btw, the usa ALWAYS destroys country's industry / economy 1st ... just remember kosovo / serbia ... usa+NATO didnt won the war in military terms. they've only destroyed factories, power plants, refineries, bridges, railroads, etc which of course cant hide/protect themselves .... and yes, even in the last days of WWII when germany was already defeated, the u.s. troops 'liberated' western parts of czechoslovakia via bombing all industry which survived 6 years of war (!!!), especially the skoda works in plzen [pilsen]. of course, many czechoslovak people were thus jobless as the destroyed factories couldnt start production of stuff needed sooo badly after the war ..... (for those who didnt knew, the german army in prague / czechoslovakia capitulated 2 weeks AFTER berlin was taken over by the russian red army) as always, just my 2 cents j. peace

    Posted 10-24-2011 at 03:30 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

14. 	wanna watch few more videos (sooo different from mainstream media!) in abhi's blog? here we go: http://www.informedtrades.com/blogs/...fis-death.html
    	Posted 10-24-2011 at 06:20 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

15. 	friends, ive cried as well .-( ... we must stop that madness ... we cant allow the 1% to kill innocent people all over the (muslim) world with our weapons, our (tax) money and in our name => RonPaul2012 + OccupyWallStreet + OccupyTogether ...
    	Posted 01-07-2012 at 04:26 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

16. 	the job in libya is finished, whats left is prolly only destruction, torture + plundering (wanna really knew some sad details? Torture and Plundering: Libya’s Militias Run Wild -- News from Antiwar.com) so whats next? syria? iran? both? source: the occupyWallStreet group on facebook ... btw, wanna also join the worldwide protest against the current deadly political-military-complex?
    	Posted 02-12-2012 at 02:51 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

17. 	Wow that video is hard to watch Jaro, I could make it though the whole video!
    	Posted 02-13-2012 at 01:05 PM by slow to learn [Show Appreciation] What's This?

18. hussein + gaddafi paid with their lifes for trying to stop selling oil for dollars ... on march 20th starts the iranian oil exchange ... well, i hope the american hegemony finally breaks apart, maybe even the whole fiat money system itself and the world will start to live within own means which imho means to start to live in peace (no nation can afford to pay for wars with honest money for too long) ... hmmmm, if u asked me, you americans could easily stop all that NATO wars all over the globe if you would go in the streets by millions and stop your current political-military-complex or vote for ron paul or both Iran presses ahead with dollar attack - Telegraph

    Posted 02-13-2012 at 05:05 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

19. 	Jaro, its not the american political-military-complex. The elites that run the world are mostly Europeans. They control our military though Congresss who they also own. Our soldiers simply take orders and the Eropean elites give the orders! Your giving Americans way to much credit the whole thing started in your backyard, like in Frankfurt, Germany!
    	Posted 02-13-2012 at 10:07 PM by slow to learn [Show Appreciation] What's This?

20. 	hmmmm, prolly the rothschilds?
    	Posted 02-14-2012 at 02:20 PM by jaro [Show Appreciation] What's This?

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