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A Simple Explanation of the Subprime Crisis Part 2
Published by DavidWaring
12-05-2007 |
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#1
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anantjain
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02-19-2008, 11:54 AM
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Hi David,
I have a doubt on how these financial companies finance MBS. This is how you have put it in the article: They finance or fund their operations by issuing short term debt to buy this longer term debt essentially having to pay a lower interest rate on the short term debt that they issue to raise money than they earn on the mortgages that they are investing in. Can you explain the part where the MBS of SPV are being financed by the short term debt? Thank You, Anant Jain |
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#2
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David Waring
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02-20-2008, 12:36 AM
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Thanks for the comment. I am not sure how to explain it differently than I have above why don't you let me know what you doubt is and then perhaps I can address that. Thanks Dave |
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#3
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anantjain
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02-20-2008, 03:42 AM
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I am naive to financial markets, so pardom my ignorance. I think the way you can explain this to me is how mony flows. Somebody who is buying MBS where does he get money from,
for example is it like borrowing money at a lower interest rate from the fed (money inflow) and buying MBS where the interest returns are higher (money outflow)? |
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#4
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David Waring
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02-20-2008, 02:27 PM
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No worries that is what we are all here for is to learn. Normally the shorter the duration is that one borrows money for the lower the interest rate they are going to have to pay on that money. So for instance, if you are a business owner and have a need for cash to cover some unexpected expense that you are going to pay back in 1 week, then the bank is under normal circumstances going to give you an interest rate on that loan that is less than if you take out a loan for 10 years. Secondly, the larger and more financially stable an institution is the lower the interest rate they will have to pay to borrow money all else being equal. So, as is explained in the video series, these CDO's are made up of a bunch of 30 year mortgages which are taken out by individuals. Since the loans are long term and taken out by individuals (some or all of whom do not have very solid financials) the interest rate that those individuals are going to pay on those mortgages (and therefore the interest rate that the SPV holder of the mortgages is going to receive) is going to be relatively high. The SPV that holds the CDO on the other hand is normally very credit worthy and therefore can normally borrow money over the short and long term for less than an individual can. What they would do is basically take their good credit rating and obtain short term loans to buy these CDO's which hold long term debt. Because the financial institutions are able to obtain a lower interest rate (due to their solid financial s plus the fact that they are borrowing money on the short term) than they are receiving on the long term debt that they are buying, they are going to make money. For instance if they borrow money at 3% from other financial institutions (probably not the Fed) for 1 year and then use that money to buy a CDO which pays say for example 7% then they pocket the 4% difference in interest rates. The key here however is that they need to be able to refinance and obtain a new loan at the end of the year (this is called rolling it over) so they can continue the process. This is the key because once cracks started to show in the subprime market, the SPV's which held these CDO's started to have trouble obtaining new financing and were thus put into a position where they were going to be forced to sell off some or all of their CDO holdings at fire sale prices. This is why you heard about banks like HSBC and CITI Group bringing those off balance sheet SPV's onto their balance sheets so they could use the balance sheet of the parent company to obtain financing and avoid having to sell off those assets for much less than they are actually worth. Hope that helps. If there are any other questions or comments on this please feel free to post them below. Best Regards, Dave |
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#5
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anantjain
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02-21-2008, 03:29 AM
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Thanks David, this sums it up very well.
In this entire discussion the one thing that I am concerned with is the role of rating agencies, no doubt large companies like Citi with strong fundamentals deserves good rating but I think the quality of loans that they have should have been one of the major factors in deciding the credit rating when they were raising money. This simple fact which I think was ignored by Credit rating agencies could have prevented the Sub Prime crisis as this would have checked the money pumping into MBS. I have seen a similar kind of scenario here in India where the rating agencies have started rating IPOs (Initial Public Offerings) and have gone horribly wrong. The IPO ratings were done considering the present market technicals and competely ignoring the company fundamentals and when the markets crashed these were the stocks which suffered most. |
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#6
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David Waring
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02-21-2008, 02:45 PM
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Yes I agree and there is a lot of talk about similar things here with the ratings agencies in the US. A big part of the issue seems to come down to the fact that these ratings agencies are paid by the firms whose debt they are rating to rate that debt so there is a potential conflict of interest there. There also did not seem to be a good understanding of exactly how these instruments were put together by the ratings agencies which has magnified the problem. Best Regards, Dave |
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#7
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sakthikumar
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03-30-2008, 07:15 PM
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DAVID,
simply supperb . |
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#8
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David Waring
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03-30-2008, 08:16 PM
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#9
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Unregistered
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05-01-2008, 09:22 PM
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Wow, I just happened on this site because I needed a quick explanation of the subprime mortgage problem. I am about to write an article about how it has affected animals. Thanks so much for making this understandable for non-economists like me.
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